Invalid point. He can deto… Lmao. Modified ear plugs? Cyclops (non-Phoenix) starts with GET OFF MY LAWN optic blast. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. THAT'S why this is a mismatch. By the time Cyclops even sees all of them he'll either get tagged from behind or the side. !Also,with 1 hour prep he could bring modified earplugs and then sonics won't do a thing.If cyke spins around with his wide beam he'll destroy every illusion that stands in his way.I haven't seen a scan on the thread with Tony dodging Cyke.Also,knowing that Iron Man can take pretty much everyone,(extremis has defeated Rulk)i made this thread to help cyke a bit and be a fair battle.That's why the armor is mk 3 and not extremis and that's why cyke has prep hour.Maybe that's why this isn't locked for a mismatch.Cyke is ma favourite character.Still,i wanted this battle to be fair ,for both of them,which i think it is.Just cuz i'm the OP doesn't mean i can't have a side,as long as the battle is fair.There's only 3 persons on the thread supporting cyke,you know that right? The fact that he was able to tank a blast from Silver Surfer means he could probably tank dozens of full-powered blasts from Cyclops. It makes them dizzy. He purposefully ignored it and it hit him from behind. His IQ is 280+ so for his armor to move as fast as a super genius to think means it had to be extremely fast. It specifically says that he replaced the uni-beam projector, "making it less powerful than Iron Man's armors." That's how much more powerful Surfer is than Cyclops. You're picking and choosing what is and what isn't reliable. NiñoAraña. scan five:Nukes don't punch through mountains?THEY OBLITERATE THEM!!! This is what I'm dealing with at this point? Se flere idéer til Xmen, X men og Karakterdesign. Cyclops is a great leader, but Cap is just next level. You must provide evidence to back up some of these ridiculous claims. !Tony was overcharged in that pic.Without it,he would blast none a rock to get out.Cyke was all but overcharged.He has cut mountains in half,you know.Scan shows:(scan above)Poor mountain.He absorbed the energy to the city as silver centurion not mk3.Stop bringing that up. Either way, as soon as he notices Cyclops being dizzy and sluggish he'll just one shot him with either a punch or a repulsor beam. Any of Tony's blast will put Cyke down, bloodlust Tony can just spam repliers & missiles keeping Cyke on the defensive. 3.1.1 Command normals; 3.2 Special Moves; 3.3 Super Moves; 3.4 Assist Moves; 4 The Basics. Yes, down the toilet. If so, which feud has more of a point? There's no evidence at all that he saw it and couldn't react. ....The point was that Iron Man didn't get knocked out or "scraped" by these hits and these characters are WAAAAAY more powerful than Cyclops. For the past decade, the feuding between these two pairs has, for the most part, dominated the Marvel comics and they have been the spines for a lot of major events (Civil War, Schism, AvX, Time Runs Out, etc). Unlike Captain America, who gave up in his fight with Iron Man in Civil War, Cyclops took another way out after the Avengers Vs. X-Men storyline. That doesn't exactly help your argument. However, there's a mathematical contradiction.". Not impressive. Despite believing that he was in the right, Cap knew that he could do more good if the fighting stopped, and he worked from within. It most certainly is not the same suit. She was leading a team of powerhouses, so it was impossible to fail. I really doubt he'll visor off. The funny thing isn't enough to give Cyke the majority. Plus, Hulk and Thor have striking power WAY more powerful than Cyclops' optic blasts since they are class 100's. You are completely missing the point. Again, he's inexperienced and his skill sucks in the suit. Iron Man has tagged Spider-Man more than Cyclops has. If he has illusions behind Scott too and mixes with the ones behind him he can get a good shot at him. Deja vus. 6)Say,yes ,he was in front of him,so you can't say he didn't saw it coming.Also,he didn't manage to dodge or had the time to dodge,so,he has tagged him and can tag him.Speed's no problem. Also i'm new here, these debates seem fun :D, @henry_venom_115: Welcome to the Vine bro :). .......Saying Cyclops can pulverize (denting or damaging it) is just as bad as saying it could cut it. From there Cyclops will stop shooting to cover his ears. SHOW me proof that it can or has cut or melted adamantium. I don't know why this isn't locked yet. Really? I'm just going to disregard all of your hostile and smack talking remarks. The IRON SPIDER-MAN from HOMECOMING and Avenger's Infinity War fights LOGAN WOLVERINE vs SPIDER-MAN PS4 vs X-MEN CYCLOPS vs JAX from Mortal Kombat X. Silver Surfer blasts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cyclops' eye blasts. He allowed his power to go to his head and even though he literally had control of every legal superhero in America, still messed the whole thing up, allowing the Skrulls to almost take over the world. By the time he begins to try to fight off the pain and try to fight again Iron Man will already shoot a hole through him or punch him out. Can Iron Man nosells it? In theory, Magneto could just clench his fist and implode the suit through Tony's ribs. Why? He's done it many times. Scott won't be able to "stand, much less fight.". Why are you putting his blast on such a high pedestal? scan six:Cyke's shot blasts of such proportions before. If you honestly believe that I feel sorry for you. By Tim Webber Published Sep 17, 2020. So has Tony, but catching them with your hands is harder than shooting them. He is visually distinctive for the ruby quartz visor he wears to control his devastating power. @uugieboogie: How don't they help this case?I've shown blast strength,speed and accuracy.Have you ever seen my previous posts?Tony ain't dodging that.Also,he used them in the fight against Banshee during the first issues of the X-men.I didn't want to make cyke win.I wanted to be fair,ok?I gave Cyke i little time to prepare cuz Tony's a whole different level,without prep it wouldn't be fair at all.The character that isn't as powerful as the other should get a little help.If it was Iron man vs Cap,wouldn't cap have a little prep time?With his new armors tony can beat ANYONE. "It can pulverize adamantium" Really? Really? The college boys were going to a Superhero banquet on Valentines' Day, but they did not have their dates. Havok was given command of the Avengers Unity Squad after Avengers Vs. X-Men, a team that combined Avengers and X-Men. And so the two ended up doing something else. Illusions + Sonics + Air Superiority = majority in Tony's favor. Iron Man COMPLETELY vaporized the ENTIRE mountain range. !Tony was overcharged in that pic.Without it,he would blast none a rock to get out.Cyke was all but overcharged.Check the nuke pic.No mountain survives that.None.He has cut mountains in half,you know.Scan shows:(scan above)Poor mountain.He absorbed the energy to the city as silver centurion not mk3.Stop bringing that up.Ok,let's say sonics dizzy cyke and impair his accuracy.Couldn't he visor off and obliterate him. Superhero battle match: Cyclops versus Iron Man. So if he wastes it just by blasting away at illusions he'll exhaust himself, @god_spawn:Ok,but,they certainly give basis and define his power limits.I really don't doubt that much?He can reach nuke levels,so,it ain't impossible.The thing about Cyke is his human potential,allowing him to use not even the half of his power.Could you imagine how AWESOME would it be if he could use,let's say ,half of it?What's your opinion in this battle? Iron Man CURBSTOMPS. !They obliterate countries.Mountains ain't no problem.Also,small mountain?Small? Try out this link: "Thoughts can be faster than the speed of light, methinks. Thirdly, yes it can. 6)Fist of all,i DON'T try to lowball.Also,Storm i know only one scan of Storm dodging his blasts,one of those really old issues.Bullseye has dodged his beams from 60-70 (or more,like half a kilometer)distance.Not such starting distance is mentioned here.Wolverine has shown he can dodge them,again,he's been tagged many times (more than he's dodged them).Also,he's tagged faster opponets.If he can tag quicksilver and northstar,well then ...Logans no prob.Also,you chose to bring the 2 most overrated characters in M.U.not much useful though.Spiderman wasn't still at all. He actually predated Strange, first appearing in 1961 in stories by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby before disappearing until the 80s, when he would become a member of the Avengers. Hawkeye had very little to work with during his tenure as leader of the West Coast Avengers and still triumphed. The Cyclops/Wolverine rivalry is more well publicized, but in truth Iron Man/Captain America butting heads goes back a long way too. He was going to talk it out with them and then when they started shooting he flew past them. Also,Iron Patriot suit is the same as Tony's ,and we're talking about repulsor speed here,not pilot's skills. He went back in time, got the team back together, and pulled victory from the jaws of defeat, even defeating his brother Cyclops in the process when he had a whole world of mutants working against him. I brought that old comic e.g. After Civil War, being a superhero was illegal without a license because Iron Man decided that being a fascist was better than trusting his friends. Ironman has durability, speed, flight, brains, strength and even energy projection advantage considering Tony's variety compared to one trick pony Cyclops . Cyclops was barely moving. But I have to say that the new blasts from Cyclops would probably damage his armour a lot. !Also,with 1 hour prep he could bring modified earplugs and then sonics won't do a thing.If cyke spins around with his wide beam he'll destroy every illusion that stands in his way.I haven't seen a scan on the thread with Tony dodging Cyke.Also,knowing that Iron Man can take pretty much everyone,(extremis has defeated Rulk)i made this thread to help cyke a bit and be a fair battle.That's why the armor is mk 3 and not extremis and that's why cyke has prep hour.Maybe that's why this isn't locked for a mismatch.There's only 3 persons on the thread supporting cyke,you know that right? Vision briefly led the West Coast Avengers and it was a disaster. 8)Oh,right,so in a battle between Mk3 and Iron patriot who would win,huh?Patriot of course. SHOW me proof that no one can take the full measure of his beams. If I assaign Cyclops - If Looks Could Kill to attack, he uses his ability. First of all, I showed you Iron Man tanking a blast from Silver Surfer already. By the time he even gets close to hitting the real Tony he will activate his sonics. Can Iron Man nosells it? In 2012, the two led their various teams into head-on collisions. For years, Janet Van Dyne was portrayed as a flighty socialite. There will be at least a dozen surrounding him from every angle. He doesn't dodge them. @uugieboogie: Not all characters in all threads are as powerful.Cyke could win by speed ,precision or tactics,while Tony relies on gadgets.HE HAS USED EARPLUGS AGAINST BANSHEE DURING THE FIRST ISSUES OF THE X-MEN!!!! CBR reviews the week's biggest new comics releases, including Detective Comics, Excalibur, Iron Man, Catwoman, and X-Men: Marvels Snapshots. This makes us think we just had this thought, which we did. Yes, I know that Cyclops was trying to lose, but why would he "let himself get hit" after "dodging" a repulsor? It was an admirable tactic, made even more effective because back then Thor would transform back into Donald Blake if he was left without Mjolnir for long enough; Cyclops didn't know it, but by blasting Mjolnir out of Thor's hand he had come close to taking … Stop trying to lowball. There won't just be 2 Tony's. The scans you posted have either been debunked or don't help his case. No he hasn't. Share Share Tweet Email. Vision just wasn't cut out for leadership. The time it takes for him to spin around the real Iron Man could be up in the air spamming repulsors or using his sonics. 7)First of all,i said it could poulverize adamantium at start.You said it could cut it and i kept going this way. Iron Man stomps Cyclops in strength. Angel Avengers Avengers vs. X-Men Babies Banshee Beast Bishop Black Widow Captain America Carol Danvers Colossus Cyclops Dazzler Gambit Giant-Man Havok Hawkeye Hope Summers Hulk Human Torch Iron Fist Iron Man Longshot Luke Cage Ms. Marvel Namor the Sub-Mariner Nick Fury Nightcrawler Pixie Polaris Power Pack Psylocke Quicksilver Scarlet Witch Spider-Man Spider-Woman Storm Vision … You are saying that he could do the same thing the Silver Surfer was capable of doing with only a couple of blasts. It's a speed feat. If Iron Patriot's weaker repulsors can one-shot Cyclops then, yes, Iron Man (even in his Mark 3) stomps Cyclops. Thor and Hulk couldn't destroy his armor beyond repair with only 2-3 hits, but you are suggesting that Cyclops could, meaning you believe his blasts are more powerful than them. I was wondering, does it even make sense for these guys to fighting each other up to the level it has reached? Cyclops/Spiderman vs Iron Man. Ironman. Exactly all I said was Tony takes the majority 7-8/10. Also,small mountain?Small? We registered the thought twice, once as the super-physical faster-than-light disturbance and once as pure physical information that our senses can register. You are making other Cyclops fans look bad, accept he loses and move on. It took years for Cyclops to lose it hard enough to try and take over the world and that only happened because of the Phoenix Force. KMC Forums > Comic Book Forums > Comic Book 'Versus' Forum > Cyclops/Spiderman vs Iron Man. @uugieboogie: Yeah. He'd have his hands over his ears screaming in pain and wouldn't be able to fight properly. Loki Laufeyson; Magneto (Max Eisenhardt) Green Goblin (Norman Osborn) Red Skull (Johann Shmidt) Thanos; Random Character; Comics. He'll waste a lot of his energy to only blast the ones in front of him while the other ones behind him are not hit. This is comic MK3 armor & not movie armor right? It's almost like the government wasn't paying attention to all of those years of terrible villainy. Add to that the fact that he would sometimes freak out in insane rages, and he was just a terrible leader. If he can tank blasts from Silver Surfer AND absorb his power cosmic, which is WAAAAAAY more powerful than Cyclops', then he won't even have a hard time absorbing or tanking Cyclops' beams. What makes him better than Cyclops is that he was able to hold the team together, keeping them ahead of Iron Man trying to arrest them, the Skrull invasion, and then Norman Osborn trying to arrest them. Cyclops' optic beam projection = enough energy to slice a mountain range in half. The end. He was never able to catch Luke Cage's New Avengers team and completely missed everything the Skrulls were doing right under his nose. The fact that you believe Cyclops possibly could is ridiculous. It's hard to point at anything terrible she did, but it's also impossible to point at anything good she did, too. Comment . So with prep Scott is going to go get something he never used? scan seven:Again ,he absorbed electricity,not gigawatt optic blasts. It is generally accepted, at least in this community and in comics, that the speed of thought is faster than the speed of light. If Cyclops had a team with people as powerful as Ares, the Sentry, and Wonder Man on it, he would have caught Luke Cage's Avengers in about twenty minutes and had plenty of time left for saving the world every couple of days. This also explains why we have no idea that we just experienced a thought until we receive the information, because there's nothing to process the faster-than-light part. There's just something about Captain America. He could risk killing himself. Things on the team got pretty contentious as time went on and the team splintered, failing to stop the Apocalypse Twins and Kang from removing mutants to their own planet and destroying the Earth. @uugieboogie: They do,but,Cyke has shown incredible luck over the years,also,(my mistake i din'[t say cyke version)has shot 180 degrees blasts.He could get him with the first try you never know.Also,Scott could wait ton y to hit him from behind,so he would consider it obvious for tony to go from front.Ok,cuz i'm kinda tired of this illusions thing,let's just say that If cyke let Tony get close enough to him to use illusions,it'd certainly be harder,Tony "would" have a slight chance of finishing him,but i really think otherwise.How 'bout ending it here? I showed you he can absorb beams as well. Contents. Fine he can use the ear plugs but they don't help him about the illusions. Either way, Tagging Quicksilver moving at blur speeds (which Cyclops hasn't done) >>>>>>>>>>> Tagging Spider-Man and Quicksilver standing still. I never said he could do better than Norrin.If i meant that,i'd say he'd be overloaded with his first shot.I said with 2-3,or even 4 shots,(his strongest)he'd be overloaded.Are you making things up? What's the illusion gonna do here ? You don't see my posting scans of Storm, Bullseye, or Wolverine dodging his beams and they are WAY slower than Peter. Norman Osborn was not a good leader. Dr. Druid... so, Dr. Druid is like a wannabe Doctor Strange, but without all the cool powers. !They obliterate countries.Mountains ain't no problem.Check the nuke pic.No mountain survives that.None. And my God... Don't you understand yet...? End of story. His team didn't have the powerhouses of the main squad, but he was able to lead them to victory constantly and still get the best jokes in. [volume & issue needed] The newly dubbed Phoenix Five begin to transform the world. Him tagging QS was already debunked by another user. Cyclops can lose to most street-level characters. From what I recall from recent issues, now Cyclops have a way more powerful blast that he can launch for a minute and is completely exhausted after that, a side effect from his time with the phoenix. And this means that our thoughts are not quite bound by physics, although the process of cognition is. This is irrelevant. I already proved to you that Norman's suit was significantly weaker than a standard Iron Man armor and that he isn't as experienced or skillful in the suit as Tony is. Cyke tagged quicksilver when he was in front of him. You have no evidence to prove they move faster than Iron Man's. To make a simple analogy, think of spurious thoughts as superluminar phase. Really? Cyclops CAN do it, but there are far more ways in which Stark would destroy him. Superhero battle match: Cyclops (Venomized) versus Iron Man (Infinity Gauntlet). I don't think you're stupid, I just think you are an extreme fanboy. It doesn't matter if it's not "written" all over forums and wikipedia sites that Iron Man tagged them, it happened, let's move on. He should not be able to dent or even scratch it with his beams. Yes it does mean it's a curbstomp. I already showed you two links of Iron Man vs Cyclops threads where they were locked. It doesn't matter. Oh right, he's gonna somehow turn his neck 360 degrees, look up, and widen his beam and instantly eviscerate every single illusion before Iron Man can react or do anything right? At this point, Luke had only been an Avenger for a little bit and was thrust into a leadership position during one of the most trying times in Avengers history. Standard rumble's setting, 100' apart. 4)sCAN ONE:If Tony stops even to gain speed,(he was still while they were shooting him)cyke'll blast him BADLY. "Mere seconds" doesn't give Tony enough time to shoot Scott? Iron Man is a great guy to bankroll the Avengers, but he's terrible as a leader, and this is exemplified by his time as the S.H.I.E.L.D. Zubehörteile sind inklusive, sowie ein Sammelteil für die Bonus-Actionfigur TRI SENTINEL. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. @uugieboogie: You're kiddin' right?After all i posted,you stick with the sonics.Cyke's gonna blast'im before he even gets to use it.I might delete that post later,BTW,so i can reply again. Putting together his own team of Avengers from a pool of villains and giving them the heroic identities of past members of the team, Osborn would use a repainted suit of Tony Stark's armor and become the Iron Patriot. That's bull. "No one has ever taken a full measure of Cyke's optic blasts"? However, if that was the case and Scott was easily dodging his blasts then how did Cyclops get hit so many other times throughout the fight? Iron Man is a character who is completely dependent on his technology, crafted from his metal-based tech. Fourthly, that doesn't matter. Cyclops didn't dodge anything in that fight anyway. Surfer couldn't stop Iron Man with two blasts so it'll take Scott A LOT more than 2-4. That makes no sense. There are few team leaders out there who are as good as Cyclops. He has no feats that suggest he could one-shot Tony. Iron Man can one-shot Cyclops due to his human durability. Achtung! You posted nothing that guarantees he's even going to hit Tony. He is also shown to tag Thor and Fire Rocket's in midair.Blowing up an iceberg,his optic beams are capable of PULVERIZING ADAMANTIUM. Iron Man is a great guy to bankroll the Avengers, but he's terrible as a leader, and this is exemplified by his time as the S.H.I.E.L.D. 3)That's actually hand written.Not a fact.And you can't always trust those sites.E.G,I got in these sites myself to search for the speed of light.Some said it's 5000.others said its 10.000,so i checked National Geographic and some other science magazines and i found out .I know that speed of thought is λικε nearly 10.000(i think from what i've read so far) m/s or more,but speed of light is 300.000 meter/second.Right now,i believe that light is faster,though,this is a comic argument,not a scientific one.