3. Is this an assumption or was there a small study or did Hasson say so? View our interactive gallery of before and after pictures. The fact that their website doesn't specify FUE or FUT for the pics is a big red flag. What about prostate DHT? I’m going to use original minox liquid. So will he be answering questions or did he just use this as a marketing ploy? I’m sorry, but what people are saying on the internet about it is the furthest thing from trustworthy. This result was achieved by reconstructing the frontal zone, including temples and working back into the crown. he mixes two type of stem cells together and grow hair follicle out of it, but he is doing it outside the body, but if he can grow hair on a skin outside the body, why he cannot grow hair directly on the scalp? If phase III is completed, do you know how much time they need to lunch the product? The topical gel potentially does have the same side effects as the oral . I understand there are more alpha reductase 1 to block in scalp. The incidence of side effects reported in the literature are a joke. Just received my Dutasteride. Great Question! I don’t believe these guys care about the ”$$$” as you put it, I simply reckon they pride themselves in doing good work and want to see their patients maintain their results and make more people suffering with this hair loss viable hair transplant candidates. Dr Harald Eberson - Ebersn Hair Clinic Holland FUE and FUT Hair Restoration. I needed to SEE the real deal. Conclusions. Hopefully it’s just a site update. Some patients who can tolerate the oral finasteride will switch to this for the duration of the pregnancy. MJ, I’ve used it all. Will the liposomal interaction with a strong minoxidil dose cause a problem ? What gives? Been on Propecia for over 15 yrs with great success fir 12 years of it. New Insight Into the Pathophysiology of Hair Loss Trigger a Paradigm Shift in the Treatment Approach. This is a paid employee of Hasson and Wong who goes by the user name "Lorenzo" The tactics that have been adopted by staff of H&W is simply disgraceful. I’ve seen at least one person unironically say that fin gave him crippling ED and he was never touching it again just 8 MINUTES after taking his first pill. Merk’s tests just showed that it takes a higher dosage to shrink the prostate versus treating hair loss. However, research points to similar dysregulation of intrinsic signaling pathways within follicle physiology that span the hair loss disorder spectrum – with a common inflammatory component identified in most hair loss pathogenesis, including that of androgenetic alopecia (AGA). While they differ in age, occupation and lifestyle, these patients all have one thing in common: hair restoration at Rahal helped them look and feel their best. As for my English, I’m sorry, but I use a translator. The studies didn’t back the claims? If oral finasteride loses its effects can topical be used to stabilize hair and regrow again? In addition there are several case studies with BEFORE and AFTER photos . If you are interested in Hasson & Wong for FUE, then you absolutely must discuss their experience, whether they feel they are totally "up to speed" and so on. For much work this scenario has been changing with some discoveries. If so, are you saying that DHT *produced* in the scalp is the main culprit for hairloss and DHT produced from other areas in your body do not contribute to hair loss? In the first study we conducted we compared serum DHT in oral vs topical finasteride . However, people in other regions of the world including the US have had no such luck. They make liposomal one based on Hassan and Farmacia Parati formula. He had seen Hasson & Wong online and after trying PRP (platelet rich plasma treatment) with very little success, he decided to go to the clinic to see one of our doctors for a consultation. This matches what we know regarding the difference in hair growth results between the oral versions of both drugs. I know there are a lot of cheerleaders on these things for Hasson and Wong, but now I can definitely see why. In this hair restoration video, Dr. Wong transplanted 5825 grafts in one session restoring this hair transplant patient's hairline and crown. Thats what it says in the nail, but TBH I would have used it every day too. From personal experience I’ve tried finasteride in a variety of dosages and no matter what dose, i got side effects. We believe our work speaks for itself. @admin. I knew the side effects were a possibility, i just didn’t think about them until i realized they were happening already after a few years. Are you saying that even for patients that you have had that have been stable on oral finasteride for years, you still won’t prescribe them oral fin? fingers crossed people. By then, hopefully I won’t even need fin. If you’re in Vancouver, we’re happy to meet you in person to evaluate your particular needs. They feel trapped having to choose between being bald and a life with sexual dysfunction . Is it about the safety concerns? An employee of Hasson and Wong has already in the last 24/48 hours used disgraceful lies to try and smear me and he has subsequently deleted those posts. Others may be more pragmatic. $8.00/graft for first 2,000 grafts. It seems like this is 25x stronger than 0.1% (the equivalent of 1 mg per day). Please, tell us also what is your address and phone number for the shipping. Dr. Hasson has selected some pharmacies in the US that will compound his proprietary product. Probably not because they don’t cover things that are regarded as cosmetic, and Propecia form what I understand is not covered. Based on this, either take it or don’t take it but don’t screw around with it or it becomes a different compound; an untried untested compound with its own side effects. Murray Ave is legit but it’s expensive and only creams. Sides haven’t been an issue, 55 and still have the “switch blade”. If we can agree that blocking the formation of DHT could at least potentially be problematic, than we can agree that this isn’t the safest or most prudent option, unless you care so much about your hair that you’re willing to screw with your hormones and anything downstream that’s adversely affected. The foam just thinned out my right hairline badly. This level of skill can only be acquired by performing thousands of hair restoration surgeries. Sorry. My left hair line is nw1 and my right side is now heading to nw3. Does adding crushed fin pills provide more regrowth? The first 12 years it worked great! If there is no risk to blocking DHT, then why not more? Check out our latest videos on our YouTube Channel.. See hundreds of unretouched photos and HD videos of Hasson and Wong’s real patients and authentic transplant results. Did you try regular liquid rogaine with success or did you start seeing results when you used the crushed Propecia into Rogaine ? Any idea why topical formulation wasn’t considered initially? 2 years earlier than riken if not more since riken will have to train ht clinics worldwide to use the stem cell therapy. Could a doctor from Mexico fill out the prescription form and we have it mailed to us in the USA or Mexico? If you want to try high strength Minox with no additives in liquid form maybe go for Minoxidil Labs 10 or 15%. If serum DHT is decreased by 30% using this (im guessing at 1ml topical) as opposed to 70% with oral, won’t we see an increase in that serum DHT reduction when applying more topical, in return getting close to 70% oral serum reduction and still causing these side effects? $3.00/ graft thereafter. Dr.s Victor Hasson and Jerry Wong, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada January 2014 $11,500 to $13,000 for 2500-3000 grafts. Yes we have measured serum DHT concentration in 2 separate studies . Why not sell it worldwide? Yoda what’s the name of the compound minox you are using? The funny thing is that 5mg generic finasteride IS covered usually because that dosage is used for enlarged prostrates. : minoxidilmax) – Will we see sooner result with the topical version vs the oral version? Thanks. According to the Hassan study with his liposomal formulas absorption is minimal…..get a liposomal gel. I do not know if it is everyone’s knowledge, but one of the challenges of stem cell scientists is exactly how stem cell proliferation maintains its regenerative capacity. Best luck I ever had was Dr. Lee’s Xandrox but he got shut down by the FDA. Don't let them show you before and after pictures of FUT patients and then have FUE done with them. As for Hasson & Wong, as I have said many times on this site, I still maintain we will never see a prescription strength anti-androgen as a topical agent brought to market due to the risks to pregnant women and children from shedding and contact transfer. In hindsight, this is not surprising when considering the fact that I get emails about topical finasteride at least several times a month. I asked about topical dutasteride (which interests me more than topical finasteride), and Dr. Hasson mentioned that this product is next in line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq-qyqdyL8M, RIKEN can achieve amazing density ! Check out the rather lengthy Hassan study. If you are waiting for 100% safety , and can afford to wait a few years ,this is not for you . What precautions should be taken if I and my wife decide to have a baby? I’ve seen people online say that finasteride caused their ED while also admitting to excessive consumption of pornography and trying no fap to combat it. I will ask him to elaborate in the comments to this post. I came in deflated and exhausted with my hair loss. Did you order from them or do you have another source? Sadick NS, Callender VD, Kircik LH, Kogan S. Abstract Hair loss affects millions of men and women of all ages and ethnicities, impacting appearance, social interactions, and psycho-emotional well-being. I just popped the pill everyday and went about my business. Or is this just maintenance. How could one go about getting this in America? Little sketchy though on the day Brotzu was suppose to publish results lol. Farhan Yes . You mentioned that Polichem almost finished Pivotal Phase III. I’ve been on Rogaine foam with little success. I checked their website, it doesn’t say anything about Dr. Hasson’s product. Your email address will not be published. This is not a novel concept. I have been in contact with Mike and the office since the procedure. In my research one name came up over and over again, “Hasson and Wong” based out of Vancouver Canada. How do we know that topical dutasteride is superior than topical fin? Some who claim they’ve had “PFS”, but then admit to having used other drugs that could’ve caused it and they can’t quite be sure if they even have it. I’ve been taking oral Propecia for over 15 years. Try PV Pharmacy Services in Idaho. Crazy sht. Click ‘Start Your Online Consultation‘ to send us your contact information, transplant history and pictures of your hair loss and donor area. In my research one name came up over and over again, “Hasson and Wong” based out of Vancouver Canada. Every male over the age of 18 should take finasteride as a vaccine for adrogenetic conditions. Attached you can find a sample of prescription that your doctor needs to fill. Would adding topical finasteride boost or kick start the effectiveness since it blocks more dht at the scalp? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. “That Guy” and others, I will delete most of the comments about side effects of oral Fin (both pro and con) hereon. True. Upon meeting with Dr. Hasson, it was determined he would be an excellent candidate for a hair restoration procedure as he had above average donor hair with a manageable area to restore. Hasson and Wong’s hair transplant result videos feature close-up views of the donor area, the hairline, top of the head, crown and sides. Great thickening and growth but short lived since I developed bad scalp scaling and sebhoretic dermatitus. This was the reply. Therefore, from such studies the proliferation of stem cells by means of a laboratory dish may not be the most appropriate medium presenting less effective indices than the healing potential of stem cells. In 2014, I wrote a post on topical finasteride that has since became one of the most read posts on this blog. Our hc system needs an overhaul. The results of the study are posted on our blog . That 3 % crap was a Merck propaganda. Check out these incredible hair transplant before and after results of hair transplant surgeries performed by Dr. Wong of Hasson and Wong hair transplant clinic in Vancouver British Columbia Canada.The transformations are clearly life changing. In the real world there are young men experiencing emotionally devastating hair loss right now . Who knows? Hasson & Wong Clinic - Sessions: 1 - Grafts Implanted:4461- Baldness Class:5 - Follicular Unit Transplantation (FUt) - Hair transplant surgery before and after results By kaan acar | 3:50 PM Leave a Comment Hair Transplant Surgeon: Dr. Hasson & wong Hair transplant operation before and after results. The first hurdle is getting a doctor to provide a prescription, but I guess just asking for finasteride (without specifying topical) would be enough. dr. aygin serkan; dr. feriduni bijan; dr. hasson&wong; dr. koray erdogan; premium plus. View our interactive gallery of before and after pictures. A lot of us asked the doctor when the product will be available in US, yet we don’t have answer. Since then I’ve used Promox, Murray Ave RX, Minoxidil Laboratory, Dualgen, etc. It is an effective treatment for people who are experiencing hair loss right now and cannot tolerate the oral . I see that much research is aimed at the efficiency of stem cells for laboratory proliferation. Use common sense and read the user instructions. Women are not allowed to even touch broken tablets because of severe birth defects. Hair Transplant Before and After-Dr. Wong at Hasson and Wong. $6.00/ graft thereafter. See hundreds of unretouched photos and HD videos of Hasson and Wong’s real patients and authentic transplant results. Remember that the hair loss process is fundamentally different in the two conditions. Since February 2017, they have been using their third generation of topical finasteride. Dr. Cole posted some impressive results on hairlosssite of a topical finastride from Italy. They were so helpful and sent me a sample of prescription that a doctor needs to fill out. We are usually able to review your submission and provide an assessment within 3 business days. Honestly if it is that dangerous I won’t touch it no matter how many tests they do, https://www.apnews.com/4ae98919b52e43d8a8960e0e260feb0a/AP-Exclusive:-US-scientists-try-1st-gene-editing-in-the-body. I needed lots of work to go from nearly a stage 6 ( fully bald) to a full head of hair having 5200 FUT grafts done in one session. If they are happy on the drug , I have no problem keeping them on the oral ( so long as they are informed of the latest publications which explain the risks.) The drug has a nearly flat dose response; 1mg is actually almost as potent as 5. Barbu Gociman is is a Dr. Eric Seth Slone MD Plastic Surgery. I bought commercial topical fin/mix with retina. Much cheaper but do not know turn around time. The number of men taking finasteride — as I’ve discussed with people here before — for hairloss is so insignificant it doesn’t even make a blip on the radar. and about this mice, did they apply stem cells directly into the skin of it, or grew it where else and transplant into the skin of the mice? It is more higher, a lot more higher than 3 %. If you have scientific well thought out arguments, I may make exceptions. Gonna order some in Jan. How has your progress been? Oral finasteride is a shame. 10 out of 10. How do you crush the pills? Dr. Feller, Dr. Lindsey, Hasson and Wong, and Shapiro Medical Group trained with Beauty Medical and offer the temporary SMP procedure; Dr. William Rassman performs his own variation of Scalp Micropigmentation with permanent ink. I noticed this too…thought I just forgot where it was but yeah…couldn’t find it. I know next to nothing about science, but here’s a question I have regarding the reduction in side effects: Dr, why do you think you’ve seen a reduction in side effects? I was on oral 1.mg of Finasteride for approximately 20 years with no sides . Do you have any specific information here? Looking at 5 to 10 years before this gets wide spread availability to us commoners lol . Oral sides are not few and I personally find the side effects unacceptable. – When will we see some result data and photos? If you have passion in what you do and do it well, money follows. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27046152 All studies are from 2017 and 2016. Hair Transplant Sessions: 1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28222425. https://hassonandwong.com/topical-finasteride-update/, https://hassonandwong.com/topical-finasteride-case-studies/, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28222425, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27046152, Dutasteride (Avodart) Reviews and Ratings, The second of these two products is Canadian hair transplant clinic Hasson & Wong’s topical finasteride. I have enough functional problems as it is lol. Which is 25 more than follica. Yup 125cm2 of density. Hasson & Wong Clinic (Canada) The clinic founded by Dr.Hasson and Dr.Wong in Vancouver / Canada. In 2011, he was rushed to a hospital by helicopter after suffering chest pains and was treated for … Check out our latest videos on our YouTube Channel. Required fields are marked *. Perhaps a third company can develop nanoparticle based finasteride delivery in the future? Thank you for your time. In terms of effectiveness, the topical formulation has not been studied extensively. Neuroactive steroid levels and psychiatric and andrological features in post-finasteride patients. I understand that other topical solutions will interfere with the Finasteride solution. Remember that you are applying it to the scalp and not the hair. In addition our gel has a depot effect , with a slower and more sustained release of finasteride into the scalp . Ok. I think that I can say with a fair degree of confidence that it is scalp DHT levels which are mainly a result of 5AR activity locally in the scalp that is of importance in MPH . I never followed through because the cost was exorbitant. Honestly though I think it wasn’t mixed properly or the retina which caused bad scaling and inflammation counteracted the effects of liquid minox and fin. Hair Transplant Hasson And Wong Dr Va Harris Roanoke. Your typical cancer takes 10 years to develop. @Victor Hasson MD: It is really a shame the situation of current treatments to treat androgenetic alopecia. I will mix one pill with either aloe vera OR a few drops of castor oil. You can not reduce 70 % of an hormone that is in normal levels in your body and have not side effects, you can not do it even with cholesterol . I doubt he decided on anything – that is just what the italian pharmacy produce. My Dr and compound totally abandon me they had no idea about this or what to do ill stay tuned. Local compounding pharmacies in most cities will be able to make topical finasteride for you if you ask. We have many patients happily using the topical with good results and without adverse effects . May 3, 2020; reddwarf; Eberson Hair Clinic - Dr Harald Eberson. After 4 months of research I decided that Hasson and Wong was the one for me. Will applying topical finasteride be a danger if I live with a pregnant woman? It is one of the difficulties encountered by many scientists in the world, such as RIKEN / Tsuji. First of all, thank you to make us aware of the product and to take the time to answer some questions. Got the same reply you did, followed by following shipping info: Dear Mr. Greg, usually the gel should be used 2-3 times a week, but for more specific information regarding the frequency of use it is better to directly ask to your doctor. This is the hypocrisy of this drug. the only 2 hopes at today: JAK inhibitors and Organ/Riken haircloning…. :(, WHEN WILL YOUR TOPICAL FINASTERIDE GEL BE AVAILABLE? Don't take our word for it. Are you saying the italian pharmacy told you the 2.5% gel should be applied 2-3 times per week? View more hair transplant before and after results at: wwww.hassonandwong**** don’t seem to report every imaginable side effect and a VERY curious correlation is that the drug does not have an internet hate mob attached to it regarding those issues. It seemed to lose it’s effectiveness about 4 years ago and switched to .5mg of Avodart about 2 years ago. Every before and after transformation is a work of art. This s isn’t good for you in the long run and the sooner we have a replacement the better for everyone, Even those who take this piece of shot drug. In the second study we performed DHT levels on individuals before starting the topical (so essentially each individual could act as their own control ) and at various times after dosing after 3 weeks of treatment. Tsvetalin Zarev: Bulgaria: n/a: $4.43/graft. https://news.stanford.edu/2017/11/02/gel-helps-grow-large-quantities-stem-cells-limited-space/. There is considerable benefit here . So would you need 60ml a month plus shipping this would become rather expensive rather quick. This is one incredible transformation. It should quell your fears…. I did not record his call, but below are some highlights that I recollect: I am currently on minoxidil 12% and 5% azelaic acid cream at night , rogain foam in the morning and dutasteride 0.5 every other day with decent results. Anyway, I’d prefer to use a topical, but I will not until it’s been out for 5 – 10 years and is proven to effective; until then, I’ll use the pills. Questions: – What is the difference between your topical finasteride and other topical finasteride products? It is completely justifiable to be skeptical of the accuracy of 2%. This is why on the Farmacia Parati website they mention dosing every 2nd day is possible. Sure but that lies the issue of self reporting. The patient is ecstatic. However, that seemed to be a possible flop so….. Idk Friday the 13th? I Prefer topical Finasteride 1000 times. What does the study show? See HD before and after videos at hassonandwong.com. I brought dosage up because it shows the psychological aspect from another angle: Guys who take 5 times as much finasteride for BPH and stuff seem to report debilitating side effects at least 5 times LESS than guys taking 1mg for hairloss despite fewer people taking the drug for hairloss. – Do you have a timeline for the topical dutasteride to become available? Get Your Free, No-Obligation, Online Hair Transplant Assessment Here. Question for Dr. Hasson: How did you decide to make the topical 2.5%? From my (very limited) understanding, Fin blocks 5ar from converting T to DHT. Hasson and Wong’s practice was one of the first I saw that focused on “dense-packing” of adding more follicular units to add density without creating a pluggy, doll’s head look. Thanks for sharing it with us! Thanks yoda. Thanks. i didnt fully understand what tsuji takashis procedure exactly is. Do we talk about months or 1-2 years? 5mg of finasteride will Inhibit more 5ar II than 1 mg. 10 mg or higher will do a little more. These side effects were very insidious and i wouldn’t be surprised if they escaped the cognition of many people who take this drug, forgetting what normal is supposed to be, including myself. Can you elaborate and provide examples? More than 20 years without any new … it’s really pathetic. Our blog : https://hassonandwong.com/topical-finasteride-case-studies/, Can’t believe nobody has asked this yet…but Dr Hasson, if you’re still around…. Does this topical only block 5ar locally in the scalp? Sorry if this was stupid. The best place to start your hair transplant investigation is right here! I became clinically impotent for 6 days straight tried everything to get back scariest moment of my life I cried myself first thing and last before bed. Too bad we’ll have to wait a long time to get it here in the US. Lol. HASSON & WONG Vancouver FUE and FUT Hair Restoration. Strangely, men who take it for issues not relating to hairloss (and at a higher dose!) Topical finasteride would clearly be cosmetic use. Finasteride can have bad side effects; likely more often than Merck admits too, but the internet fear culture built around it definitely creates a ton of hypochondriacs who can’t keep their stories regarding side effects straight and just like “minoxidil aged me” claims, these people were 100% of the time, always aware of and afraid of the side effects before taking it — the nocebo effect is real. The sustained release may allow less frequent dosing . (e.g. I AM IN ASIA. Will there be a website or a phone number contact to link my dr office or compounding pharmacy? After that it started losing effectiveness and I am thinning. By now, they probably have two decades of extensive online before and after photo documentation. R. ... Before and After Result. Following from my earlier comment re:Polichem Phase 3 completion, I reckon with a bit of luck we can expect market release in exactly a yes, Xmas ’18. Topical treatment is rapidly catching up. I am using it every day (7times a week). This is a very good question ! There is no greasiness at all . Dr. Nakatsui learned many things from Dr. Wong and Dr. Victor Hasson at Hasson and Wong in Vancouver before bringing back these techniques to Edmonton to work with dermatologist Dr. Don Groot at the Groot DermaSurgery Centre. Give the Rogaine liquid a try, if it doesn’t do the trick send a beam of light to old Yoda if you want some of my “wisdom”. As an alternative, is it fine to massage the scalp and specifically dutemescence therapy in conjuction with topical Finasteride. The study follows: http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2017/11/stem-cells-express-genes-differently-in-lab-dish-than-in-body.html. Recently, they have found it was because mice cells naturally “clumped” more creating a more 3d environment. You cannot put a price on experience and results, my goodness my entire life has changed! Hasson & Wong has published well over 250 stellar patient results in our open forum with 15+ years of uninterrupted patient records. They do not mysteriously disappear after your big day, but rather stand by their name, results, and customers. This should reassure those who doubt effectiveness of a topical compound which has minimal systemic exposure . There are a number of regulatory hurdles that Dr. Hasson has been trying to overcome in order to sell in the US. Dr hasson ive been following you for 3 years from america. Note that in many cases, a trained technician and not the physician will be performing scalp micropigmentation. I would like to know which kinds of small scale studies have been conducted on their 3rd gen liposomal finasteride? Hassan and Wong is only selling to their surgical patients, canadian citizens that reside in Canada, Your email address will not be published. Hi MartinP, one of the links that I have in the post to Polichem’s R&D page says that Polichem is currently doing Pivotal Phase III Trials in Europe. The price for one bottle 30 ml is € 50,00 (+ shipping cost). Would appreciate a step by step guide explaining how to obtain this topical formulation from the Italian pharmacy! etc. I don’t think Polichem will answer e-mails by users as Almirall (their mother company) is listed on the stock exchange. Personally I take topical finasteride at extremely small percentage dose. you’re pill pushing affirmation of a drug that you know deep down isn’t healthy is pathetic. BEFORE AND AFTER Hair Transplant Photos : Female By Number of Grafts All Men < 1000 1000-1999 2000-2999 3000-3999 4000-4999 5000+ By Norwood Scale (M) 2 2A 3 3A 3V 4 4A From here we greatly appreciate your involvement to reduce the systemic effects so dangerous that this drug has. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28408350, Post-Finasteride Adverse Effects in Male Androgenic Alopecia: A Case Report of Vitiligo. You can put it in your shampoo. Plus my Dr. just laughed at me when I told him that I wanted to try it…. Yep good topical liposomal formulas with gel agents, soluble silicon, polyacrylamides prevent systemic absorption by not being permeating the dermis. I believe they are overblown on forums and that what’s the data indicates. The hair growth with the topical seems to be equivalent to the oral. Why not just take dutasteride if reducing DHT is “just in your head”? 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